Does Ibotenic acid induce anxiety?

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Does Ibotenic acid induce anxiety?

Post by Sid_Hatrack » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:51 am

I am interested to know if anyone with experience can comment on eating uncooked dried caps.

I had planned to make tea (and still do), but when my caps arrived recently, I opened the sealed bag to transfer them to a glass jar with a packet of desiccant. In transferring them I was captivated by how beautiful they were, bright red and perfectly round caps. I am not usually very spontaneous, but I felt compelled to wet my finger, press it in the dust and ate it. I thought this small amount would be sub-threshold, but to my surprise about ten minutes later I felt a slight sedation, a bit spacey and anxious. About an hour or so later I felt quite tired and had to lie down, although I did not sleep. I wondered if this was just placebo so a few hours later I ate a grain of rice size piece of cap. I did this about 4 times that day. Each time I felt slight sedation and anxiety. However, after the anxiety passed, I felt quite chipper and found myself singing off and on and going for a long walk.

I did not want to believe that AM was causing anxiety so the next day was a repeat, eating the same small dose about four times inter-spaced by 3 or 4 hours. Each dose was about .02 gram. Again, sedation with anxious feelings and self-doubt about what I was doing and later, not euphoria, but just feeling good.

I decided to see where this would go and the third day I started again with a same sized dose. This time I felt depressed and my thinking felt spacey. I did a second dose and I still felt off my game and it came to me to stop this experiment which I did and have had no AM since.

My understanding is that cooking is to reduce the nausea from Ibotenic acid by converting it to muscimol, but now I am wondering if Ibotenic acid produces anxiety and that cooking takes that away. After reading so many reports of how AM reduces anxiety I am wondering why my experience was contrary.

Thanks for any feedback.

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Re: Does Ibotenic acid induce anxiety?

Post by amanitadreamer » Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:37 pm

Sid_Hatrack wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:51 am
I am interested to know if anyone with experience can comment on eating uncooked dried caps.

I had planned to make tea (and still do), but when my caps arrived recently, I opened the sealed bag to transfer them to a glass jar with a packet of desiccant. In transferring them I was captivated by how beautiful they were, bright red and perfectly round caps. I am not usually very spontaneous, but I felt compelled to wet my finger, press it in the dust and ate it. I thought this small amount would be sub-threshold, but to my surprise about ten minutes later I felt a slight sedation, a bit spacey and anxious. About an hour or so later I felt quite tired and had to lie down, although I did not sleep. I wondered if this was just placebo so a few hours later I ate a grain of rice size piece of cap. I did this about 4 times that day. Each time I felt slight sedation and anxiety. However, after the anxiety passed, I felt quite chipper and found myself singing off and on and going for a long walk.

I did not want to believe that AM was causing anxiety so the next day was a repeat, eating the same small dose about four times inter-spaced by 3 or 4 hours. Each dose was about .02 gram. Again, sedation with anxious feelings and self-doubt about what I was doing and later, not euphoria, but just feeling good.

I decided to see where this would go and the third day I started again with a same sized dose. This time I felt depressed and my thinking felt spacey. I did a second dose and I still felt off my game and it came to me to stop this experiment which I did and have had no AM since.

My understanding is that cooking is to reduce the nausea from Ibotenic acid by converting it to muscimol, but now I am wondering if Ibotenic acid produces anxiety and that cooking takes that away. After reading so many reports of how AM reduces anxiety I am wondering why my experience was contrary.

Thanks for any feedback.
I did this and make 2 videos about it. They are called Microding Ibotenic Acid. I didn't get anxiety though. And I get anxiety from EVERYTHING. I think the small amount of muscimol onboard helps prevent it. Cooking makes that conversion. I think it depends on each person's biochemistry.
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Re: Does Ibotenic acid induce anxiety?

Post by Donn » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:21 pm

I wonder if there are effects that we more or less all have in common from ibotenic acid, and then some `second order' effects like anxiety that may come out of a reaction to a primary effect. Not necessarily any physiological difference at all, could be purely psychological.

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Re: Does Ibotenic acid induce anxiety?

Post by Damon » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:19 am

If the AMs are dried, should I still make a tea? Can you just eat these once they are dried?

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Re: Does Ibotenic acid induce anxiety?

Post by Isan » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:08 am

Damon wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:19 am
If the AMs are dried, should I still make a tea? Can you just eat these once they are dried?
I would follow Amanita Dreamer's YouTube videos for preparation and add it to your tea or just take it by itself. Dose accordingly to what your intended outcome is.
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