Amanita Kombucha as Dairy-Free "Soma" ?
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:29 am
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The thread for this can be found under the general board index as vegan alternatives. There's nice long discussion going on over there! I am going to be making a video on what we come up with when my kitchen is finished renovation.lostmushroomforest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:29 amWatching the How to Make Soma video made me wonder what other bacterial/fungal cultures could be used to fully decarboxylate ibotenic acid into muscimol? I've experienced firsthand how edible bacteria, yeasts, and molds can transform the properties of various psychoactive herbs through decarboxylation and other enzymatic processes, so it was exciting to learn of another thing to try. From the video, It seems like Amanita muscaria tea does not significantly inhibit the growth of yeasts or lactobacilli, so kombucha growth should not be inhibited the way certain herbs high in terpenes /flavonoids /other antimicrobial plant compounds do.
Has anyone had any success making kombucha with amanitas? How long does it take for the scoby to adapt to Amanita tea? Is there a recommended ratio of scoby / starter tea / base tea / Amanita tea that producing the best results? How long does it need to ferment to fully convert the ibotenic acid muscimol? Does it have a similar effect to regular soma?
I was thinking of making Amanita tea for microdosing, then adding tea in the last 5 minutes of the boil. I would use honey as a sweetener + honey kombucha since that has more of a relaxing feeling that I think will synergize well with the Amanitas. Any thoughts / advice?
As far as I'm aware, there are no published measurements of decarboxylation effectiveness using kombucha, nor would I expect simply adding kombucha to the last five minutes of a boil to achieve any additional decarboxylation at all. I believe this is based on a 2012 patent which performed this procedure to significant results:lostmushroomforest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:29 amHas anyone had any success making kombucha with amanitas? How long does it take for the scoby to adapt to Amanita tea? Is there a recommended ratio of scoby / starter tea / base tea / Amanita tea that producing the best results? How long does it need to ferment to fully convert the ibotenic acid muscimol? Does it have a similar effect to regular soma?
I was thinking of making Amanita tea for microdosing, then adding tea in the last 5 minutes of the boil. I would use honey as a sweetener + honey kombucha since that has more of a relaxing feeling that I think will synergize well with the Amanitas. Any thoughts / advice?