Hello
@EaglesNest and
@fantanyl !
Conversation has slowed but the wonderful thing about this forum is that our experiments are permanently available to all!
EaglesNest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:17 pm
Hi guys, I also just registerered! Found this forum through the ambrosiasociety forum, where i posted a bit years ago. I'm thrilled to see an active discussion again around Amanita and the fleece!! I'm curious to how the possibility for a lab testing for Ibotenic Acid/Muscimol is looking now? I would be willing to contribute monetarily if we group together! I just harvested and dried some beautiful caps so will probably be growing some fleece again soon when the mood strikes.
Also interested in new recipes or substrates for growing if you guys have any, since i have autoimmune and my gut is not too happy with grains or fruit juices. Would love to hear more about growing on beans as per your posts
@Mcpato !
A picture from fleece grown on grape juice from i think almost 5 years ago, which probably was my last time:
So I still very much love the fleece and plan to work much more extensively with it in the future, but I have taken a break in order to work on other projects that I hope will help me bring out the true potential of the fleece.
Ignore all the doubters and "Nay Sayers" about this divine gift. It is the same fear at work against the fleece as that which is against the Amanita. It is simple for all to see and experience for themselves but they will not. If you isolate the fleece, it will grow on any carbohydrate. Juice, barley water, beans, the sky is the limit. If you are familiar with the recent explosion of possibilities coming out in regards to how people work with Koji, you will begin to see the possibilities of physical preparation with the fleece. We've barely scratched the surface of what is possible! Please share with us your experiences, I'm so happy to hear of any ideas or discoveries you make.
As for me, I currently study Alchemy, and will apply my hopeful mastery to the fleece once I've reached that point, but that is the direction I wish to go.
I've made the fleece so many times, and one thing is clear to me, it is very understated. Its effects are undeniable, yet it always feels like it's trying to go somewhere that it just cannot quite do. And If I if it's dose dependent... I've tried taking higher doses and it really packs a punch when you do, but it's so different and still feels like it is missing something important. In and of itself I believe it is complete but perhaps a form of fermentation, like with lactobacilli bacteria as has been found with Amanita? I will explore these more in the future too...
fantanyl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:17 pm
nice coincidence @EaglesNest ! just today i finally found some caps, too, so now i´m ready to go
how do you dry your caps ? i thought about just letting them dry on a papertowel i hope they don´t rot or something like this
and what do you guys think about first propagation of the fleece in vermiculite and brown rice flour ? just to isolate the fleece and then maybe on grape juice ( for what i´m super curious about)
@Eaglenest absolute wonderfull fleece you had there, looks even better then in the video of the don ! do you had a nice effect of it ?
a lab test would be awsome, but no idea where this would be possible, but i keep my eyes open
greets
Isolating the fleece with vermiculite and BRF would work fine. The entire point is getting clean spores. Do it how you will, then let the fleece show you what it can do. Dont be afraid of it, even if you allow it to go full on black with spores. It is edible raw, but more desireable dried as per Teeter's method. I've found taking the fleece raw, every day for a few days to be a very interesting and cleansing experience. At first it hits like a truck, then every day you take it, it feels better and better. It may be that I never grew enough at a time to be able to take it in enough consecutive days for it to really show me its potential. I think I did 3 days max and the 3rd day it felt like a different thing entirely, in the best way possible. See for yourself what I mean. It is very mild, take it slowly at first, there is no need to take a heroic dose. It will make you sweat a lot and it'll feel very floaty. The next day it will be much easier, and easier still the next time. If you want to discuss more, I'll be more than happy to! I look forward to working on the fleece again, but am very excited to see like-minded individuals adding their experiences here!
Good luck my friends!