Amanita Pantherina, aka, Panther Cap

[Splinters and Shards]

@T36 I've cut myself off from the internet for a couple of years. I got wrapped up in it years ago and the mushrooms told me to distance myself, so it's awesome having others like you to get me back up to speed!

As for breaking through, I wouldn't call it death. It's more like rebirth.

[T36]

...Dude
Feels like we're going off-topic here))) but ur something else!!! (No offence intended) eating death caps!?! Ur the craziest of us all!!!!
I vote you to be our leader!!! We need a separate thread devoted to you!!!! You must tell us more about yourself!!!
Im super hyped! And want to know more about you and what the mushroom has shown you!...

[Mcpato]

@Mcpato
Hmmm i cant remember reading about Don Teeter making Ambrosia with panther caps

His friend Terry, who I believe is an administrator (was???) on the ambrosia forum spoke about it on a different forum years ago. Entheogen-network i think? They were arguing its being a mucor and NOT true amanita mycelium.

[UrsusSapiens]

Once again on bluelight.org, a thread on A. pantherina in mammals:
https://www.bluelight.org/xf/threads/st ... ls.400780/

looks interesting

[UrsusSapiens]

Here is another paper, comparing the effects of muscaria poisoning to pantherina poisoning - of course behind a paywall
But the abstract is promising...

Toxicon. 2014 Nov;90:269-72. doi: 10.1016/j.toxicon.2014.08.067. Epub 2014 Aug 27.
Amanita muscaria and Amanita pantherina poisoning: two syndromes.
Vendramin A1, Brvar M2.
Author information

1
Poison Control Centre, Division of Internal Medicine, University Medical Centre Ljubljana, Zaloška cesta 7, Slovenia. Electronic address: vendramin.andreja@gmail.com.
2
Poison Control Centre, Division of Internal Medicine, University Medical Centre Ljubljana, Zaloška cesta 7, Slovenia. Electronic address: miran.brvar@kclj.si.

Abstract

Amanita muscaria contains more excitatory ibotenic acid and less depressant muscimol compared to Amanita pantherina. In this study A. muscaria poisoned patients were more often confused (26/32, p = 0.01) and agitated (20/32, p = 0.03) compared to those poisoned with A. pantherina (8/17 and 5/17). Patients poisoned with A. pantherina were more commonly comatose (5/17) compared to those poisoned with A. muscaria (2/32) (p = 0.03). In conclusion, the so-called ibotenic or pantherina-muscaria syndrome might be divided into two subtypes.

[Rebis]

Yes, it does Splinter.
Your local carpet cleaning firm must love you.

My main purpose will be micro dosing, with possible further mind explorations in the future, depending how I get on with Muscaria or the Pantherina.

Rebis.

I'm glad it helped!

On the second note, I bought my own carpet cleaner early on. Enzymatic spot cleaner for pet messes also works really well!

When you plan on exploring your mind with these teachers, I'd be more than happy to offer any advice to help you on your journey!

Thank you, Splinters, I'll keep your offer in mind.

Rebis.

[Rebis]

Once again on bluelight.org, a thread on A. pantherina in mammals:
https://www.bluelight.org/xf/threads/st ... ls.400780/

looks interesting

Thanks for the link, Ursus.
That does sound a bit worrying though, the memory problems for a while post use, as mentioned in the first post in the link.

Rebis.

[Wolf_Metal_Roots]

I have competition from others where I collect my Amanita Muscaria. I see the evidence of discarded stipes.
This is a problem for me, for it leaves very few for me to gather.

But, the area has an abundance of Amanita Pantherinas , also known as Panther Caps, which are left alone and not picked by the competition.
I've read they have the same chemistry as the Muscarias.
Has anyone tried these Pantherinas?

Rebis.

I would definitely make sure they were not death caps, they sometimes can look very similar to the amanita phalloides! I have seen striking specimens that absolutely could fool the best.

[Rebis]

I have competition from others where I collect my Amanita Muscaria. I see the evidence of discarded stipes.
This is a problem for me, for it leaves very few for me to gather.

But, the area has an abundance of Amanita Pantherinas , also known as Panther Caps, which are left alone and not picked by the competition.
I've read they have the same chemistry as the Muscarias.
Has anyone tried these Pantherinas?

Rebis.

I would definitely make sure they were not death caps, they sometimes can look very similar to the Amanita phalloides! I have seen striking specimens that absolutely could fool the best.

Thanks for the warning, Wolf-Metal-Roots.
These Amanitas were brown with white remnants of the volva. If not Pantherinas, then they could have been Amanita regalis, or Amanita rubescens; the last one being edible.
I don't think Phalloides aka 'Death Cap' have white remnants of a volva on their caps, do they?

Best,
Rebis.

[short3gears]

Rainy Saturday here in NC USA. I'm feeling kinda blue. Was hoping for a small 'experience' in prep for microdosing going forward...

So my story so far:
30g dried Pantherina arrived earlier in the week - from Ukraine according to ebay vendor.
Nibbled less than 1/2g right when I opened the package. nothing happened.

Test night one: I tried 1/2g chewed/swallowed at about 5:30pm. ate another 1/2g at 7pm. Not much to report. Slept 2 hours (8pm to 10pm). Slept poorly remainder of night.

Test night two: Made 'tea' with 4g pantherina. Lemon juice for a minute, then simmered in water for 20 minutes. Made 8 Oz of tea. drank 2 Oz and went to bed. a 30 second visual with eyes closed - i watched a plant sprout and grow -it was unusual and I thought the fun would start - but that was it. slept very well remainder of night.

Next morning 8am test 3: drank 2 Oz (if the tea extracts all, it would have been 1g pantherina). Nada. 2 hours later drank another 2 Oz. waited. nothing. 2 hours later finished the liquid and ate the boiled shroom flesh. NADA.

making more tea now and will try again. I suspect i am one of those that this has no effect on. Or, could be the shrooms. I've been told in the past that there is a gene that i may have (no science involved) that I am immune to opioids - they don't seem to have an effect on me (hospital IV and any kind of pills pretty much useless). Amanita isn't an opioid, but i find it very strange i am not affected by either. IDK lol

So 28g amanita muscaria from Oregon should be here next week - fresh and AA quality according to vendor.


Thanks for this site and all the great info!