My First Amanita Muscaria Tea Prep (with Stringy Goo).

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My First Amanita Muscaria Tea Prep (with Stringy Goo).

Post by Rebis » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:16 am

My very first Amanita Muscaria tea prep (with stringy goo).

Well I made my first AM solution the other day. But I had a bit of a surprise when I added the alcohol – I’ll explain.
The Amanitas I used were from my very first batch I harvested last October. This batch being my first batch I dried over a convector heater, and burned subsequently – I got a fruit dehydrator for my other batches so they are okay.
For the purpose of microdosing for pain relief, I added 15g of these dried burned AMs to a saucepan of 250ml (one cup) of distilled simmering water, and simmered for 30 minutes.

I deliberately did not top up the saucepan with more water as it evaporated, and was therefore left with about 50ml tea solution in the pan.
I decanted this into a sieve over a beaker, and then through a coffee filter. This last took ages, about three hours – I must get thinner more porous coffee filters next time.
Then I added 200ml of 95% proof vodka, 'Spirytus Duch Puszczy', a Polish vodka not found in your local supermarket. You will have to get it online or order it from a specialist wine & spirit merchant. I choose this high alcohol percentage because I don’t want it to go off too quickly.

This is when the surprise happened. The 50ml extract looked clear enough before I added the vodka, but as soon as the vodka was added, the vodka solution went cloudy.
I stirred it with a spoon, and when I pulled the spoon out of the beaker, this grey ball of stringy goo was attached to the spoon, leaving the solution in the beaker clear again.
I decanted the solution in four bottles; three plastic bottles for storage in the freezer compartment, and a fourth, a glass eyedropper bottle for daily use.

The following day in the morning I took one drop of AM tea in a about one or two ml concentrated lemon juice, the sort of lemon juice you use on pancakes. Left it for a couple of minutes for the ibotenic acid to covert to muscimol before topping up the shot-glass with a bit more water to make it less sour, and down the hatch it went.

I didn’t notice mush, so after two hours I took another drop, and hurrah, it works. Within about fifteen minutes I had pain relief :P . This only lasted about an hour or so before the pain crept back again.
Before going to bed I took three drops of the solution in lemon, and had a pain free sleep for the first time in ages.

Today, two days on, I have upped the dose to 6 dropped a time, in the morning, early evening, and before going to bed.
I’ve had no stomach upsets or nausea, which I didn’t expect anyway, not with micro dosing.
The pain relief last till about the next dose, and I do get this kind of pleasant cosy feeling, bodily and visually, with these six drops.

I’ll keep upping the dose over the days, for experimental reasons, to see what the effects will be, and what my comfortable limit is with this particular burnt batch.

I do wonder though, what that grey stringy goo was all about – anyone have any ideas on that?

I’m off to bed now. :P
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Re: My First Amanita Muscaria Tea Prep (with Stringy Goo).

Post by Donn » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:52 am

If I followed that right, you're working with the material now that's in the worst shape, so next batches should be equal or better. Good to hear that it's working. My very uneducated guess is that the soup you got from a half hour boil included some proteins that were semi-soluble until the concentrated alcohol, at which point they coagulated.

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Re: My First Amanita Muscaria Tea Prep (with Stringy Goo).

Post by Rebis » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:07 am

Donn wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:52 am
If I followed that right, you're working with the material now that's in the worst shape, so next batches should be equal or better. Good to hear that it's working. My very uneducated guess is that the soup you got from a half hour boil included some proteins that were semi-soluble until the concentrated alcohol, at which point they coagulated.
That’s correct, Donn, it was from the worst material I had, which happened to be from my very first ever forage last October. I didn’t have a fruit dehydrator at the time, and burnt them over a convector heater, which I now realize gets far too hot for the job – so yes it’s from my worst batch which got burnt. My other batches are all okay.

All my other batches were dried between 40.c – 55.c. which at those low temperatures will still have the ibotenic acid unconverted to muscimol. But, I’m microdosing, so the lemon tek is not that important for such small doses; in fact last night with my bedtime dose I took six drops without the lemon juice, and it seemed to work quicker - though that could just be subjective due to my expectations I have of ibotenic acid.

Do you think that the protein might have been from dead worms in the mushroom?

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Post by Donn » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:53 pm

Nah, it would take a lot of worms. Animals aren't really that much more proteinaceous than other living things. And for that matter, it could as well have been a polysaccharide like chitin, though chitin itself isn't very soluble.

Note that your stomach is a good deal more acidic than a tea with some lemon juice. We all prefer to do what we can to get the best out of our mushrooms, but I'm betting that in the end the differences are more about natural variation, in the mushrooms and in us.
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Post by Rebis » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:52 pm

Donn wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:53 pm
Nah, it would take a lot of worms. Animals aren't really that much more proteinaceous than other living things. And for that matter, it could as well have been a polysaccharide like chitin, though chitin itself isn't very soluble.

Note that your stomach is a good deal more acidic than a tea with some lemon juice. We all prefer to do what we can to get the best out of our mushrooms, but I'm betting that in the end the differences are more about natural variation, in the mushrooms and in us.
Thanks for your reply, Donn.
Interesting. Had to look it up though, to find out what ‘chitin’ is.

To update:
I no longer add lemon juice to my microdosing.
Last Friday evening I upped the dose to 15 drops, and have been pain free since, without the need to take anymore drops. That was more than two days ago.
I didn't have any other effects, just the pain relief.
I am now just going to microdose about 2 or 4 drops a day, and see how it goes.

This is a remarkable mushroom.

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Re: My First Amanita Muscaria Tea Prep (with Stringy Goo).

Post by Maddenel1 » Wed May 06, 2020 3:16 pm

I made the amanita tea with rum, lemon juice, and ginger. I have no upset stomach at all. When I take 1/4 tsp in the morning I feel energy, peace, calm, joy, and bliss (a really nice feeling), but get kind of tired sometime in the late afternoon. Then I take another 1/4 tsp approximately 3 hours before bed I notice that I have a very restful sleep with lucid dreaming. I notice when I take the 1/4 tsp in the morning I am calm and do not get stressed or upset about things that would normally upset me. I am so glad to have discovered amanita.

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Re: My First Amanita Muscaria Tea Prep (with Stringy Goo).

Post by asunnyday » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:42 pm

Maddenel1 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 3:16 pm
I made the amanita tea with rum, lemon juice, and ginger. I have no upset stomach at all. When I take 1/4 tsp in the morning I feel energy, peace, calm, joy, and bliss (a really nice feeling), but get kind of tired sometime in the late afternoon. Then I take another 1/4 tsp approximately 3 hours before bed I notice that I have a very restful sleep with lucid dreaming. I notice when I take the 1/4 tsp in the morning I am calm and do not get stressed or upset about things that would normally upset me. I am so glad to have discovered amanita.
Hi Maddene, can you share your exact recipe? Thank you so much!

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