Alcohol maceration of the mushroom? (and my presentation)
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:18 am
Hi, sorry if my english is a little crappy.
I'm a novel writter from Spain, Europe, and I want to write a history centered on realistic witchraft. I have been researching a lot, and practicing sleep paralisis for some time to trigger out of body experiences. I don't want to writte about fantasy witches, neither today rational view that ''is just medieval ignorance'', cause I firmly belive it's not.
There are numerous trials and documented information, on Navarra for exemple, all of the village see an old woman accused of witchcraft descending like a lizard from the tower after using one of his confiscated ointments (the inquisitor promise to liberate her if she can escape using witchcraft, later she was captured and processed anyways...) well.. you can say those are crazy times and you can't quite give credit to the cronics... but there are well documented cases far more recent, like the bizzare lawsuit in Cideville on 1851 between the priest and a supposed mage that caused all types of poltergheist, and invisible hand beating people and paranoic monks searching for spirits with metal nails, one of wich touched ''something'' and then a series of sparks and smoke scares the shit out of them, or the case of poor Emilie Sagee who posees a semi-physical double that makes her fired from his jobs.
There is definitelly ''something'' about this thematic that can't be rationally explained.
On my sleep paralisis personal research, at first I found that there are attributable to hypnagogic states, and I can totally see why people who practice it for religious or dogmatic pourpose takes them for real, you can't ''wake up'' and they can get intense and vivid. Also interesting that the symptoms recalled by people who describe abductions or paranormal experiences are exactly similar, even matched to the medieval episodes of victims of witches, demons or vampires.
There is a series of simptoms and signs from those states, the bee like zum zum, the electric oscilation feel trough the body, the paralisis... even described perfectly by J.T Sheridan Le Fanu on his lesbic vampire novel Carmilla (Wich preceeds in time to Bram Stoker's Dracula), he definitelly do his reseach on historical depictions of demon and vampire assaults.
Well... even if those experiences are ''realistic'' and can be very intense, you are ''part of the experience'', you dont question things that you normally do, and latter if you are objective and logic about it, you can spot the things that doesn't quite have sense.
Even those ''astral voyagers'' that genuinely use sleep paralisis instead of mere lucid dreams tend to have personal experiences mixed with their cultural background, the mind tends to reproduce the inmediations, but when they move away, is just a mental trip.
Or so I use to belive... the fact is... there are ways to have very different experiences, where you are totally aware, you question what you are seeing, even don't belive it instead of being part of the experience, you can feel every little fiber of the blanket, and there is absolutelly no explanation of how the fuck have you been able to trow down that old graphic card box from the shelf... but those experiences are pretty hard to achieve, so hard and demanding that I can only manage to do it 3 times in my lifetime.
Usually is just youre usual vivid inner trip, maybe other dimensions or wathever.
Well... Doing reseach on real witchcraft is pretty hard, I have read almost everything out there, Paracelsus treatises, Roberk Kirk Secret Community, Vampire Treatise from Calvet, Armadel, Mabinogion, the exquisite and cult Compendium Maleficarum From Fra. M. Guazzo and much others. It starts has a simple desire to write a realistic medieval novel involving genuine witchcraft practice, and it turns an obsesion... I can see that the vast majority of old magic treatises are just stupid things loosely based on superstition, jewish cabbala, popular beliefs etc... made up to content the curiosity of the general public, and the cult part of them are from people of the church who just speculates.
When I move to astral thematic books, Oliver Fox, Muuldon, Doc. Moonroe etc... I see some of them actually start well with a genuine interest and experiences, but all of them gets rapidly lost and adopts esoteric views conforming individual dogmas wich also shapes their experiences. In the end none of them reach the type of experiences that I search, and in case their are real, could explain a lot from historical cases of witchraft or paranormal.
I purchase recently a house on a mountain village, I'm gonna be alone to practice my shit and doing magic research, and of course, there is something I definitelly have to try, cause there is no dobut that witches uses ''the mushroom''. Here it's fairly easy to found Amanita Muscaria, I need to learn how to propperly prepare and use it as part of my documentation work, and even if I can use it to trigger easilly those out of body experiences or it can be related.
I'm still learning from Amanita Dreamer videos, but for the first question I want to know about alcohol mixing, supposetly the Centaurs mixed the mushrom with wine to make ambrosia in greek mythology, and the syberian chamans mixed it with vodka or licor, the alkaloids disolve well on alcohol, but on the channel this is strongly discouraged.
Is there any experience about it? Is it really that bad if the Syberian chamans do it, or is there something we miss about it?
On a book Guide of psychodellic plants from J.L Berdounces it recomends to macerate it with a strong licor, (Leave the mushroom on licor for some days) but the autor isn't quite concrete of how many days and provides loose information, so I don't know what to belive.
I'm a novel writter from Spain, Europe, and I want to write a history centered on realistic witchraft. I have been researching a lot, and practicing sleep paralisis for some time to trigger out of body experiences. I don't want to writte about fantasy witches, neither today rational view that ''is just medieval ignorance'', cause I firmly belive it's not.
There are numerous trials and documented information, on Navarra for exemple, all of the village see an old woman accused of witchcraft descending like a lizard from the tower after using one of his confiscated ointments (the inquisitor promise to liberate her if she can escape using witchcraft, later she was captured and processed anyways...) well.. you can say those are crazy times and you can't quite give credit to the cronics... but there are well documented cases far more recent, like the bizzare lawsuit in Cideville on 1851 between the priest and a supposed mage that caused all types of poltergheist, and invisible hand beating people and paranoic monks searching for spirits with metal nails, one of wich touched ''something'' and then a series of sparks and smoke scares the shit out of them, or the case of poor Emilie Sagee who posees a semi-physical double that makes her fired from his jobs.
There is definitelly ''something'' about this thematic that can't be rationally explained.
On my sleep paralisis personal research, at first I found that there are attributable to hypnagogic states, and I can totally see why people who practice it for religious or dogmatic pourpose takes them for real, you can't ''wake up'' and they can get intense and vivid. Also interesting that the symptoms recalled by people who describe abductions or paranormal experiences are exactly similar, even matched to the medieval episodes of victims of witches, demons or vampires.
There is a series of simptoms and signs from those states, the bee like zum zum, the electric oscilation feel trough the body, the paralisis... even described perfectly by J.T Sheridan Le Fanu on his lesbic vampire novel Carmilla (Wich preceeds in time to Bram Stoker's Dracula), he definitelly do his reseach on historical depictions of demon and vampire assaults.
Well... even if those experiences are ''realistic'' and can be very intense, you are ''part of the experience'', you dont question things that you normally do, and latter if you are objective and logic about it, you can spot the things that doesn't quite have sense.
Even those ''astral voyagers'' that genuinely use sleep paralisis instead of mere lucid dreams tend to have personal experiences mixed with their cultural background, the mind tends to reproduce the inmediations, but when they move away, is just a mental trip.
Or so I use to belive... the fact is... there are ways to have very different experiences, where you are totally aware, you question what you are seeing, even don't belive it instead of being part of the experience, you can feel every little fiber of the blanket, and there is absolutelly no explanation of how the fuck have you been able to trow down that old graphic card box from the shelf... but those experiences are pretty hard to achieve, so hard and demanding that I can only manage to do it 3 times in my lifetime.
Usually is just youre usual vivid inner trip, maybe other dimensions or wathever.
Well... Doing reseach on real witchcraft is pretty hard, I have read almost everything out there, Paracelsus treatises, Roberk Kirk Secret Community, Vampire Treatise from Calvet, Armadel, Mabinogion, the exquisite and cult Compendium Maleficarum From Fra. M. Guazzo and much others. It starts has a simple desire to write a realistic medieval novel involving genuine witchcraft practice, and it turns an obsesion... I can see that the vast majority of old magic treatises are just stupid things loosely based on superstition, jewish cabbala, popular beliefs etc... made up to content the curiosity of the general public, and the cult part of them are from people of the church who just speculates.
When I move to astral thematic books, Oliver Fox, Muuldon, Doc. Moonroe etc... I see some of them actually start well with a genuine interest and experiences, but all of them gets rapidly lost and adopts esoteric views conforming individual dogmas wich also shapes their experiences. In the end none of them reach the type of experiences that I search, and in case their are real, could explain a lot from historical cases of witchraft or paranormal.
I purchase recently a house on a mountain village, I'm gonna be alone to practice my shit and doing magic research, and of course, there is something I definitelly have to try, cause there is no dobut that witches uses ''the mushroom''. Here it's fairly easy to found Amanita Muscaria, I need to learn how to propperly prepare and use it as part of my documentation work, and even if I can use it to trigger easilly those out of body experiences or it can be related.
I'm still learning from Amanita Dreamer videos, but for the first question I want to know about alcohol mixing, supposetly the Centaurs mixed the mushrom with wine to make ambrosia in greek mythology, and the syberian chamans mixed it with vodka or licor, the alkaloids disolve well on alcohol, but on the channel this is strongly discouraged.
Is there any experience about it? Is it really that bad if the Syberian chamans do it, or is there something we miss about it?
On a book Guide of psychodellic plants from J.L Berdounces it recomends to macerate it with a strong licor, (Leave the mushroom on licor for some days) but the autor isn't quite concrete of how many days and provides loose information, so I don't know what to belive.